Hillary backs tough sanctions against Iran

Bush administration has rolled out some new sanction measures against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and its Quds Brigades. Hillary Clinton comes out in favor of these harsh sanctions. I strongly applaud her principled standing on this matter. Here's Clinton's statement:


"We must use all the tools at our disposal to address the serious challenge posed by Iran, including diplomacy, economic pressure and sanctions.

"I believe that a policy of diplomacy backed by economic pressure is the best way to check Iran's efforts to acquire a nuclear weapons program and stop its support of terrorism, and the best way to avert a war. That's why I took to the Senate floor last February and warned the president not to take military action against Iran without going to Congress first and why I've co-sponsored Sen. Webb's legislation to make that the law of the land. I've been concerned for a long time over George Bush's saber rattling and belligerence toward Iran.

"We must work to check Iran's nuclear ambitions and its support of terrorism, and the sanctions announced today strengthen America's diplomatic hand in that regard. The Bush administration should use this opportunity to finally engage in robust diplomacy to achieve our objective of ending Iran's nuclear weapons program, while also averting military action. ..."

Iran's nuclear program has posed a serious threat to international security.  It's no surprise that wimps inside the democratic party such as Edwards who believes 'fighting terrorism' is just a 'bumper sticker' will come out against such sensible measures. Anybody not taking fighting terrorism, national security seriously does not deserve to get even closer to the white house. After he loses this nomination battle, Edwards will have plenty of time to invite holocaust denier Ahmadinejad to his big mansion in NC for a cup of tea.

For now, Edwards is hit hard by Roger Simon in a latest article published in a NH newspaper.
Roger Simon: Is John Edwards subtly appealing to racism and sexism?

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx? headline=Roger+Simon%3A+Is+John+Edwards+ subtly+appealing+to+racism+and+sexism%3F &articleId=d336919d-6ddb-43bd-a712-a 735408be769


Could be. But John Edwards' real problem is that he wants to project a down-home, rural, good-old-boy image, while people instead see him as a super-rich lawyer, living in a huge mansion and getting expensive haircuts.

Being born in rural America doesn't guarantee that you can win in rural America. As Jesse Jackson once said, "My cat had her kittens in the oven, but that didn't make them biscuits."

Indeed, being a fake southern wimp certainly is not going to help the democratic party win any red state. Remember 2004?

Let's take a look at who's actually winning the tough guys.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/hunter/6200 84,CST-NWS-hunter25.article
Hillary doing well with 'really macho' unions


Vince Panvini has been the political director of the Sheet Metal Workers International Association for 14 years, and he has seen a lot of Democratic and Republican candidates come and go.

In 2004, he was hoping Dick Gephardt, the congressman from Missouri, would win the Democratic nomination, but Panvini's union was split: some members supported former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean; others liked Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry. So they didn't endorse until Gephardt pulled out after the Iowa caucuses, choosing to unite behind Kerry.

This time there is no split, and likely before the end of the year, they will formally endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.). The members were polled about the candidates, and Clinton was the favorite, 2-1, Panvini said. "Our guys are really macho, but it's amazing how they flock to her. They love her."


These 'macho' metal workers are certainly not impressed with a faked Southern male wimp who's more interested in expensive haircuts and kowtowing to a holocaust denier who vowed to wipe Israel off the Middle East map. Voters are not stupid, they value a politican with inner strength who can stand on her ground.

By the way, Clinton campaign also comes out mocking another flip-flopper in this farce.


To: Interested Parties
From: The Clinton Campaign

RE: Obama vs. Obama: The Real Differences on Iran

Who said this?

"Such a reduced but active presence will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region." Later in the same speech, he said: "Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening."

George Bush? Nope.

The latest from Dick Cheney? Guess again.

Language from Kyl-Lieberman? Sorry.

That was Senator Obama in late 2006 making the case for why maintaining a military force in Iraq is necessary to constrain Iran's ambitions. But that was then.

This is now: Stagnant in the polls and struggling to revive his once-buoyant campaign, Senator Obama has abandoned the politics of hope and embarked on a journey in search of a campaign issue to use against Senator Clinton. Nevermind that he made the very argument he is now criticizing back in November 2006. Nevermind that he co-sponsored a bill designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a global terrorist group back in April. Nevermind that his colleague from Illinois - Dick Durbin - voted the same way as Senator Clinton on Kyl-Lieberman and said "If I thought there was any way it could be used as a pretense to launch an invasion of Iran I would have voted no."

Today, in order to justify his opposition to Kyl-Lieberman, Senator Obama says that such language is bellicose and gives the President a blank check to take the country to war.

But if Senator Obama really believed this measure gave the President a blank check for war, shouldn't he have been in the Senate on the day of the vote, speaking out, and fighting against it? Instead he did nothing, remained totally silent, skipped the vote and spoke out only after the vote to engage in false attacks against Senator Clinton. A Washington Post editorial summed it up best: "Now, trailing in the polls and sensing a political opportunity, Mr. Obama is trying to portray Ms. Clinton as a reckless saber-rattler. That is irresponsible and -- given the ease with which the charge can be rebutted -- probably naive, as well."

That's not the kind of and strength and leadership Americans are looking for in their next President.

Hillary has been clear and consistent in saying that diplomacy backed by economic pressure is the best way to check Iran's efforts to acquire a nuclear weapons program and stop its support of terrorism, and the best way to avert a war. That's why she took to the Senate floor last February and warned the President not to take military action against Iran without going to Congress first and it's why she's co-sponsored Senator Webb's legislation to make that the law of the land.

That's the kind of strength and experience that will lead to the changes Americans want in our nation's foreign policy.

All democratic candidates were saying sanctions were necessary part in keeping Iran's nuclear ambition at Bay, but when rubber hits the road, only Hillary is standing on her ground. Sanctions and diplomacy are certainly starting to work in persuading North Korea to give up its nuclear program. This is a dangerous world, any candidate who does not measure up to their promise on matter of national security certainly does not deserve to lead the free world.

On the record, Edwards and Dodd do not support these sanctions. They have a lot of explanations to do. Their actions certainly do not measure up to their past rhetoric on this issue. They have failed this 'commander in chief' test miserably.

Update [2007-10-25 20:11:59 by areyouready]: CBS democratic primary poll http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/25/opinion/polls/main3411229.shtml
Sen. Hillary Clinton has widened her lead in the race for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, according to the latest CBS News poll of Democratic primary voters. But more than one third of voters overall say they would definitely not vote for the former first lady. In a hypothetical three-way contest, 51 percent of Democratic primary voters choose Clinton as the nominee. That's the highest percentage since CBS News started asking the question in the spring and an increase of seven points from September. Twenty-three percent back Sen. Barack Obama, while 13 percent support former Sen. John Edwards.


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Exactly .

Just like Steve said the moderates won out here .

We are applying sanctions instead of going to war which is the right approach.

It is incumbent on the other candidates who say Iran should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons and all option are on the table .

Okay so what is your proposal ?

We are following the diplomatic track now and some are still faking outrage , so what is their own course of action ? Since they feel Iran is such a threat.


When I speak I have a southern drawl.. When you come down here Stop and say hello I'm an American from south of the Mason Dixon line
by lori on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:06:46 PM EST

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exactly, I'm extremely incensed by these wimps. They do not deserve to win. It's a serious serious matter if Iran gets a hand on a nuclear device.

I assume Israel will take them out and I wholeheartedly support it.

BTW, another poll shows Clinton crossing 50%
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/2 5/opinion/polls/main3411229.shtml
CBS:
Clinton 51
Obama 23


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:09:39 PM EST
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Listen to yourself.
You are a warmonger...no different than Rush Limbaugh or Dick Cheney.

The mere possession of weapons (which Iran doesn't even have) is not a "serious" matter.

It is the starting of War that is the crime.




For a "surge" in Truth:  Say NO to NeoCons!!!
by DerekLarsson on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 02:56:00 PM EST
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Well, if you read the article, there is an IAEA report due out next month which if it brings down an unfavourable finding against Iran would unite a lot of European support with us.  Why not wait for that?  What would you suggest we do if it doesn't?  Bomb them anyhow?

If you want my personal opinion, smart money would be on dealing with the Russians, they don't want a nuclear Iran either.  If we used dropped our European ABM initiative, or even just negotiated on our position, and believe me there is plenty of leeway there, we just might get their help.  That would get the Iranians undivided attention, let me tell you.  That's the only way to get at them over their terrorist mischief, sanctions will never succeed in doing that.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:13:03 PM EST
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I think that's the right understanding of the internal politics.  The moderates in the State Department against Cheney and his pack of neocons, and State won this round.

I frankly don't know if these particular sanctions are the right idea or not.  In hindsight, our sanctions against Iraq were a total disaster on many levels.  But sanctions against Libya ended up working pretty well.  It comes down to the specifics of the country involved and whether you can figure out the right place to target the sanctions.

But I look at this in a very practical way.  If we can make it to 2009 without Cheney's cabal managing to launch another misguided war, that's a win for the country.  Pretty much everything else is secondary, so if pursuing sanctions is the viable alternative to military action, then I'm all about the sanctions.

In 2009, the next President can take a close look at the sanctions and figure out if they're actually working.  Until then, it may not be possible to pursue a perfect policy, but avoiding disaster has to be our top priority.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:42:48 PM EST
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"I strongly applaud her principled standing on this matter."

Applaud her for what. She is soo wrong on this issue. And you backing her doesn't mean a hill of beans. I disagree with Hillary's position on this. Russia it right on the money. This is all for Israel, bottom line. Israel runs America. Israel has infiltrated every area of our government and that is sad. Very sad.


by lonnette33 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:10:35 PM EST

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That's your position, but I respectfully disagree. Iran is a serious threat, sanctions are just basic steps to rein them in.

Without sanctions, North Korea was probably detonating their second nuclear device.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:14:08 PM EST
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I could support her position if we did have Bush and Cheney in the White House. If she were president, I wouldn't be worried. I trust Hillary not to go to war with Iran. I DO NOT TRUST BUSH. PERIOD.

She is on shaky ground here. Big time.


by lonnette33 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:21:06 PM EST
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I meant to say if we did NOT have Bush and Cheney in the White House.

And if I were you, I wouldn't be pushing this story. This is loser for Hillary, especially in Iowa.


by lonnette33 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:22:32 PM EST
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Not really. I think it's more important to stand on principle from time to time on critical matters. I have no idea if this will cause her some votes among the most dovish faction of the party, but overall, I believe it won't hurt her.

I partly agree with you on Bush/Cheney, but you can't just oppose everything simply because it's proposed by Bush/cheney.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:27:23 PM EST
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i would have agreed with that statement in 2002. but by 2007 one must understand that the entire vision of the world which possesses both bush and cheney is fundamentally corrupt and counterproductive. i would bet my paycheck on the opposite of what they think to be completely correct on every single damn issue.


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:21:58 PM EST
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You're awful.  You distort her statement to support your own warped opinions.  You are driving her supporters here away.  You make Hillary loook just awful.  For pete's sake, stop it.


by bookgrl on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:27:17 PM EST
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Your comments suggest that these are the first and only sanctions against Iran. Haven't we had sanctions against Iran since, what, 1979? What explanations do you have for Bush's timing of this additional hostile move against Iran--apart from attempting to be provocative?


by skeptica on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 01:05:26 AM EST
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This issue will be Hillary's downfall. She better clean this one up and quick.


by lonnette33 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:17:31 PM EST

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I disagree, but maybe you're on the more 'dovish' side, nothing wrong with that, but I just don't agree. Tight sanctions are necessary IMHO.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:20:55 PM EST
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Dammit areyouready, I am a moderate. Not a dove. I'm not a hawk like you, lori and Hillary. Do you want another war? After 1 trillion dollars later, I've got a news flash for you, 70% if the America public DO NOT trust Bush when it comes to national security. He lies. Do you not understand who we are dealing with here.

Stop pushing this story.


by lonnette33 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:27:10 PM EST
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Lonette, beware of the source here. (none / 0)

I don't know of anyone running for President that doesn't want to put economic sanctions on Iran. What she has to say is a call for diplomacy, not war.  And, I wouldn't say Russia is right on the mark.  Putin is like a Russian Bush, he's an authoritatian and not a person I trust.  Per usual, areyouready is a terrible spokesperson for Hillary.


by bookgrl on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:49:56 PM EST
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CBS poll (1.00 / 1)

Lots of interesting internals, will probably write a diary later.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/102507 _newspoll.pdf

This immediately caught my eyes.

Among democrats:
           Fav (unfav)(undecided)
Clinton    72 (15) (12)
Obama      56 (13) (30)
Edwards    44 (14) (41)

Explain his/her own plan/position or attack in the primary race?

                 Explain(Attack)
Clinton           68(18)
Other candidates  47(34)


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 08:32:15 PM EST

Please delete this. (none / 0)

You misconstrue Hillary's statement.  You are driving supporters from here.  Get control of yourself.


by bookgrl on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:17:36 PM EST
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seconded


zombies are coming
by leewesley on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:22:50 PM EST
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You're absolutely wrong. I certainly understand she's advocating both diplomacy and sanctions. But make no mistake, the detractors are trying to distort her record.

Sanctions are part of diplomacy, there is no need to be defensive on this one. Candidates who opposed to sanctions really need to give us an answer. Why? Is Iran a serious threat? If so, what measures should be taken to deal with them? Should U.S. just lie down and let that holocaust denier call the shot?

Weakness is not a winning strategy, people admire strength, period.


Hillary: We will finally have a president who doesn't mind pulling over and asking for directions. Am I right, ladies?
by areyouready on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:40:39 PM EST
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And That Sigline Is Reason Enough to Totally . . . (none / 0)

dismiss this person! Areyouready is definitely not ready to be making decisions about who governs us.


by Davidsfr on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 01:06:37 AM EST
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I would be more enthusiastic if the current administration ALSO included DIPLOMACY -- but thats still lacking.  She needs to be more forceful about that.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 11:06:03 PM EST

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areyoureadyforWar wrote:

"On the record, Edwards and Dodd do not support these sanctions. They have a lot of explanations to do."
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The mere possession of weapons (which Iran doesn't even have) is not a "serious" matter.

It is the starting of War that is the crime.


The blood is on the hands of The United States and Hillary Clinton.



For a "surge" in Truth:  Say NO to NeoCons!!!
by DerekLarsson on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 03:00:00 PM EST

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The evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program is nonexistant.  This is exactly like WMD.  


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